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Kerins says Dail is 'lawless place' after court ruling

Former Rehab boss wants case overturned by Supreme Court

Ms Kerins last week lodged appeal papers with the Court of Appeal and the Supreme Court seeking to overturn a decision by a specially convened three-judge Divisional Court.

The Division Court found the former charity boss had her reputation personally damaged by comments made at a PAC hearing, but said it could not find against the committee as it was covered by privilege under the Constitution. Ms Kerins has argued she is entitled to protect her good name under the Constitution and the courts have an obligation to provide a legal avenue for her to do so if her reputation has been damaged by an Oireachtas Committee.

The High Court heard she tried to take her own life after a PAC hearing where she was questioned on her salary and pension entitlements during a seven-hour committee meeting.

In her application for leave of appeal, which was lodged with the Court Services last Thursday, Ms Kerins's legal team argued that the Divisional Court made a number of errors in its judgment last January. In the application, which has been seen by the Sunday Independent, it is argued the court "erred in law" by finding that privileges and immunities afforded to the Dail and Seanad also applied to Oireachtas committees.

The document states that this is the first case in which Article 15.13 of the Constitution was applied to "render immune from scrutiny utterances" in a committee hearing.

Lawyers for Ms Kerins argue the Divisional Court's findings are contrary to precedents set by the so-called Abbeylara Supreme Court judgment which prohibits Oireachtas Committees from making findings of fact or expressions of opinion adverse to the good name or reputation of citizens.

The Supreme Court found an Oireachtas committee was acting outside its remit by investigating the shooting dead of John Carthy in Abbeylara in 2000. It is also claimed a precedent established in a landmark case taken against the PAC by Charles Haughey's brother Paraic 'Jock' Haughey, has been overturned by the Divisional Court's ruling against Ms Kerins. The application says the court "failed to reflect the necessary balance between the individual's rights and the powers of the institution of State".

The application added: "The Divisional Court erred in failing to recognise that when considering the exercise of a power within the sphere of competence of the House of the Oireachtas (which did not occur in this instance), the separation of powers doctrine under the Constitution does not recognise the existence of a lawless place in which people are empowered to do wrong without restraint."

The application also argued Ms Kerins would be provided more legal protection if she had been compelled before the committee rather than attend, as she had, voluntarily. Her lawyers have asked that the case bypass the Court of Appeal and be heard in the Supreme Court as it is a constitutional matter of public importance.

Health Minister Simon Harris and Transport Minister Shane Ross, along with Sinn Fein Deputy Leader Mary Lou McDonald have been named as respondents in the case, as have all the other former members of the PAC who were involved in Ms Kerins's committee appearance.

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The mainstream media in Ireland , such as The Irish Times, the Irish Examiner, and the Irish Independent, absolutely hate being called Virtue Signallers - because they are all at it. The national broadcaster RTE is a disgrace, especially the diminutive presenters Ray D'Arcy and Ryan Tubridy - how I hate that silly Ryan used as a forename, it must be awful for the bearers , but not as bad as my own name, Meehawl. 

The best example of virtue signalling in history is the Pharisee in the temple beating his breast and declaring, "Thank God I am not like the rest of men!"

In Ireland nobody can justly defend mass immigration now with over a million immigrants, mostly black African and coloured here as economic migrants threatening to swamp a local Irish population of less than four millions in the Republic. 

The virtue signallers are in the main young women, many of whom are drawn to what they think is the superior sexual prowess of the young African - they never stop to consider that mixed-race children have dreadful existences in all societies.

But the media well and truly hate being called virtue signallers, so call it to them truthfully - because they are that - at every opportunity. 

The media says that the term "virtue signaller" is "gone out of fashion" after only two years - but the tactic to smear people as "racists" was introduced by Leon Trotsky , the Russian Army commander who killed a million people - back in 1927 and is still fine by the very same media! 

There is no virtue in politics or in the political media by extension , it is all false and all about smearing opponents today.  In fact the very best people avoid politics altogether for other professions in the world while every Tom, Dick, Harry , Mary and Bridget is up on Facebook signalling their virtue as seriously as that old Pharisee did, though they appear to be little fools with no brains.  The most honourable people keep away from politics altogether and we can see why.  The most genuinely concerned people try to work for the homeless and such non-political causes  in these days of mass immigration forced upon the country. 

Meanwhile the most evil of the political parties, such as the IRA's front party in Ireland as well as the totalitarian international  socialist groups, slander and libel those patriotically concerned about the increasing pressure on the Irish Nation. Extreme politics was always hateful but now it's dirtier than ever on the Left. . 

Lazily smearing an opponent as "racist" is no substitute for intelligent and responsible debate, it's a cop out by those who haven't the brains for it.  Here's the mainstream media hating "virtue signalling" as a description of what they themselves do best.

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Monday, 08 May 2017 06:03


Africa is giving nothing to anyone — apart from AIDS


Feed me.

Feed me.

No. It will not do. Even as we see African states refusing to take action to restore something resembling civilisation in Zimbabwe, the begging bowl for Ethiopia is being passed around to us, yet again.

It is nearly 25 years since Ethiopia’s (and Bob Geldof’s) famous Feed The World campaign, and in that time Ethiopia’s population has grown from 33.5 million to 78 million today.

So why on earth should I do anything to encourage further catastrophic demographic growth in that country? Where is the logic? There is none. To be sure, there are two things saying that logic doesn’t count.

One is my conscience, and the other is the picture, yet again, of another wide-eyed child, yet again, gazing, yet again, at the camera, which yet again, captures the tragedy of . . .

Sorry. My conscience has toured this territory on foot and financially. Unlike most of you, I have been to Ethiopia; like most of you, I have stumped up the loot to charities to stop starvation there. The wide-eyed boy-child we saved, 20 years or so ago, is now a priapic, Kalashnikov-bearing hearty, siring children whenever the whim takes him.

There is, no doubt a good argument why we should prolong this predatory and dysfunctional economic, social and sexual system; but I do not know what it is. There is, on the other hand, every reason not to write a column like this.

It will win no friends, and will provoke the self-righteous wrath of, well, the self-righteous, letter-writing wrathful, a species which never fails to contaminate almost every debate in Irish life with its sneers and its moral superiority. It will also probably enrage some of the finest men in Irish life, like John O’Shea, of Goal; and the Finucane brothers, men whom I admire enormously. So be it.

But, please, please, you self-righteously wrathful, spare me mention of our own Famine, with this or that lazy analogy. There is no comparison. Within 20 years of the Famine, the Irish population was down by 30pc. Over the equivalent period, thanks to western food, the Mercedes 10-wheel truck and the Lockheed Hercules, Ethiopia’s has more than doubled.

Alas, that wretched country is not alone in its madness. Somewhere, over the rainbow, lies Somalia, another fine land of violent, Kalashnikov-toting, khat-chewing, girl-circumcising, permanently tumescent layabouts.

Indeed, we now have almost an entire continent of sexually hyperactive indigents, with tens of millions of people who only survive because of help from the outside world.

This dependency has not stimulated political prudence or commonsense. Indeed, voodoo idiocy seems to be in the ascendant, with the next president of South Africa being a firm believer in the efficacy of a little tap water on the post-coital penis as a sure preventative against infection. Needless to say, poverty, hunger and societal meltdown have not prevented idiotic wars involving Tigre, Uganda, Congo, Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea etcetera.

Broad brush-strokes, to be sure. But broad brush-strokes are often the way that history paints its gaudier, if more decisive, chapters. Japan, China, Russia, Korea, Poland, Germany, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia in the 20th century have endured worse broad brush-strokes than almost any part of Africa.

They are now — one way or another — virtually all giving aid to or investing in Africa, whereas Africa, with its vast savannahs and its lush pastures, is giving almost nothing to anyone, apart from AIDS.

Meanwhile, Africa’s peoples are outstripping their resources, and causing catastrophic ecological degradation. By 2050, the population of Ethiopia will be 177 million: The equivalent of France, Germany and Benelux today, but located on the parched and increasingly protein-free wastelands of the Great Rift Valley.

So, how much sense does it make for us actively to increase the adult population of what is already a vastly over-populated, environmentally devastated and economically dependent country?

How much morality is there in saving an Ethiopian child from starvation today, for it to survive to a life of brutal circumcision, poverty, hunger, violence and sexual abuse, resulting in another half-dozen such wide-eyed children, with comparably jolly little lives ahead of them? Of course, it might make you feel better, which is a prime reason for so much charity. But that is not good enough.

For self-serving generosity has been one of the curses of Africa. It has sustained political systems which would otherwise have collapsed.

It prolonged the Eritrean-Ethiopian war by nearly a decade. It is inspiring Bill Gates’ programme to rid the continent of malaria, when, in the almost complete absence of personal self-discipline, that disease is one of the most efficacious forms of population-control now operating.

If his programme is successful, tens of millions of children who would otherwise have died in infancy will survive to adulthood, he boasts. Oh good: then what?  I know. Let them all come here. Yes, that’s an idea.

Writing what I should have written so many years ago

By Kevin Myers
Tuesday July 22 2008

Last Thursday week, with famine approaching yet again, I wondered about the wisdom of forking out yet more aid to Ethiopia. Since the great famine of the mid-1980s, Ethiopia’s population has soared from 33.5 million to 78 million.

Now, I do not write civil service reports for the United Nations: I write a newspaper column, and I was deliberately strong in my use of language — as indeed I had been when writing reports from Ethiopia at the height of that terrible Famine.

I was sure that my column would arouse some hostility: my concerns were intensified when I saw the headline: “Africa has given the world nothing but AIDS.” Which was not quite what I said — the missing “almost” goes a long way; and anyway, my article was about aid, not AIDS.

Since dear old Ireland can often enough resemble Lynch Mob Central on PC issues, I braced myself for the worst: and sure enough, in poured the emails. Three hundred on the first day, soon reaching over 800: but, amazingly, 90pc+ were in my support, and mostly from baffled, decent and worried people. The minority who attacked me were risibly predictable, expressing themselves with a vindictive and uninquiring moral superiority. (Why do so many of those who purport to love mankind actually hate people so?)

We did more in Ethiopia a quarter of a century ago than just rescue children from terrible death through starvation: we also saved an evil, misogynistic and dysfunctional social system. Presuming that half the existing population (say, 17 million) of the mid 1980s is now dead through non-famine causes, the total added population from that time is some 60 million, around half of them female.

That is, Ethiopia has effectively gained the entire population of the United Kingdom since the famine. But at least 80pc of Ethiopian girls are circumcised, meaning that no less than 24 million girls suffered this fate, usually without anaesthetics or antiseptic. The UN estimates that 12pc of girls die through septicaemia, spinal convulsions, trauma and blood-loss after circumcision which probably means that around three million little Ethiopian girls have been butchered since the famine — roughly the same as the number of Jewish women who died in the Holocaust.

So what is the moral justification for saving a baby from death through hunger, in order to give her an even more agonising, almost sacrificial, death aged eight or 13? The practice could have been stamped out, with sufficient political will, as sutti in India once was. And the feminists of the west would never have allowed such unconditional aid to be given to such a wicked and brutal society if it had been run by white men.

But, instead, the state was run by black males, for whom a special race-and-gender dispensation apparently applies: thus the two most politically incorrect sins of our age — sexism and racism — by some mysterious moral process, akin to the mathematics of the double-negative, annul one another, and produce an unquestioned positive virtue, called Ethiopia.

I am not innocent in all this. The people of Ireland remained in ignorance of the reality of Africa because of cowardly journalists like me. When I went to Ethiopia just over 20 years ago, I saw many things I never reported — such as the menacing effect of gangs of young men with Kalashnikovs everywhere, while women did all the work. In the very middle of starvation and death, men spent their time drinking the local hooch in the boonabate shebeens. Alongside the boonabates were shanty-brothels, to which drinkers would casually repair, to briefly relieve themselves in the scarred orifice of some wretched prostitute (whom God preserve and protect). I saw all this and did not report it, nor the anger of the Irish aid workers at the sexual incontinence and fecklessness of Ethiopian men. Why? Because I wanted to write much-acclaimed, tear-jerkingly purple prose about wide-eyed, fly-infested children — not cold, unpopular and even “racist” accusations about African male culpability.

Am I able to rebut good and honourable people like John O’Shea, who are now warning us that once again, we must feed the starving Ethiopian children? No, of course I’m not. But I am lost in awe at the dreadful options open to us. This is the greatest moral quandary facing the world. We cannot allow the starving children of Ethiopia to die.

Yet the wide-eyed children of 1984-86, who were saved by western medicines and foodstuffs, helped begin the greatest population explosion in human history, which will bring Ethiopia’s population to 170 million by 2050. By that time, Nigeria’s population will be 340 million, (up from just 19 million in 1930). The same is true over much of Africa.

Thus we are heading towards a demographic holocaust, with a potential premature loss of life far exceeding that of all the wars of the 20th Century. This terrible truth cannot be ignored.

But back in Ireland, there are sanctimonious ginger-groups, which yearn to prevent discussion, and even to imprison those of us who try, however imperfectly, to expose the truth about Africa. And of that saccharine, sickly shower, more tomorrow.

– Kevin Myers

Is this the tolerance that our thought-police take pride in?

By Kevin Myers
Wednesday July 23 2008

ON THE one hand, I expected some uproar in Ireland over my piece about Ethiopia on July 10. But there really wasn’t any. On the other, I didn’t expect an attempt to jail me by a state-sponsored body. Yet Denise Charlton, of the Immigrant Council of Ireland, has urged An Garda Siochana to investigate me under a special law, by which I could be tried and imprisoned for two years without even the benefit of a jury.

Oh, Denise, Denise, you silly, silly little girl: have you nothing better to do with your time and talents than to try to get someone jailed for saying something you dislike? So there we are. The apparatchiks of the equality industry merely have to contemplate the sector of their psyche wherein their self-righteous emotions reside: and if these are sufficiently overwrought, they decide that a hate-crime has been committed.

Actually, I hate no-one. Personal, political and racial hatreds are the most corrosive and ruinous of all passions. Why, I don’t even hate Robert Mugabe, or his chum, the former Ethiopian dictator, the lovely Mengistu, who is hiding out in Zimbabwe, or the Emperor Bokassa, or Idi Amin, and any of those fine fellows who have brought such lustre to the name of Africa.

And so, not hating, I certainly don’t want anyone to hate anyone else either. However, I know and feel and applaud measured hostility, the guardian of our civilisation, and the father of our laws. Measured hostility is what puts the gunman behind bars: it drives the mugger from the street and the burglar from our homes.

It also protects freedom of speech from those who would steal it from us — most particularly in Ireland of today, the quango thought-police of doctrinaire liberalism, and single-issue vigilantes in the media.

This latter group is most conspicuous in Metro Eireann, the magazine of full-time, professional immigrants: that is, immigrants who write about immigration. Gosh: what interesting and varied lives you people lead!

METRO e-mailed me the following questions. “Do you agree with the charges levelled against you by the Immigrant Council of Ireland (namely that the article can be seen as inspiring racial hatred?) Why/why not?

“2. Do you agree that your article could be misunderstood in some quarters? If so then what is the main idea of it and what was it really trying to say?

“3. Do you agree that some of the statements you made could be offensive to people from Africa who live in Ireland? Did you think about them when writing the piece?

“4. It’s definately (sic) not the first time that your writing offended somebody. Can you recall any other instances/ official complaints/death threats etc that you got from, say, the Irish republicans?

“That is all. It would be great if you could answer these questions or give your comment in any way you wish. I just want to add that there are a lot of Africans associated with Metro Eireann and they’re all very offended. So we’ll have to run comments from the African community, aid groups etc and it would be really great to have your comment to balance all of that.”

So, “a lot of Africans” are “all very offended”, are they? All of them? The poor dears. Well, if the countries on whose behalf they get so easily offended are so bloody marvellous — Sudan? Rwanda? Zimbabwe? Sierre Leone? Congo? Somalia? Eritrea? Etcetera? — why aren’t they enjoying themselves back home?

Why are they here, working for a magazine which cheerfully invites me to incriminate myself before our new thought-police? Or which thinks that journalistic balance consists of Lots of Offended Africans of Metro, plus anyone else they can enlist, versus little old me?

And in that contest, by God, I know the sword whereby I stand: the measured hostility that comes from a Tolerant, European Secular Christian Order, the very one that allows Metro people come from all over the world to work here, and ask me stupid questions, and even be offended.

If the countries on whose behalf they get so easily offended are so marvellous — Rwanda? Eritrea? Etcetera? — why aren’t they back home?

Its origins lie in the Christian ore of our history. It was forged in its present form in Europe’s evil wars of the 20th century, where it was tempered in the Holocaust and shaped against the anvil of communism. TESCO stands for personal freedom, unlike the new authoritarian “liberalism” that neo-Leninist state functionaries are now making into an official political orthodoxy.

ONE of these orthodoxies is that Africa’s woes are the legacy of “colonialism”. But Ethiopia (formerly Abyssinia, and far older than any European state) was never colonised.

However, it was conquered by the Italians in 1936, and liberated in 1941 by a British army led by General Sir Allan Cunningham: a Dubliner, after whom a road in Addis Ababa is still named. This final titbit comes from one of a half-dozen Ethiopians who e-mailed me, supporting my attempts to broaden the discussion about Africa away from the grotesque pieties of simple victimhood.

Accepting criticism of one’s own country, and from a foreigner like me, is not easy: so thank you, Oh gentlemen of Ethiopia, for truly embodying the principles of TESCO. Metro, please copy.

– Kevin Myers

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The problem isn't racism, it's the tidal wave of immigrants,
 by Kevin Myers , journalist, Dublin.  


September 5 2007 12:00 AM

All right, you know about the Government's latest move to outlaw beggars? Do you really think it's really about beggars? It isn't. It's about immigrant-beggars, who now throng our streets.

We could, of course, deal with the substantive matter, that of immigration itself, but instead we prefer to deal with its symptoms -- and in the usual cowardly way in which we address anything which is a little difficult or embarrassing.

Now look: I'm not a complete fool. People don't turn columnists to read the same stuff, day after day after day. Yet that's what I've been doing, endlessly writing on this same subject.

No doubt by this time, the one reader left is some old wino sitting in a doorway in his own personal pool of warmth, scanning these few column inches in the belief that these are the greyhound results. No matter. Here I go again.

Immigration is now not merely the dominant feature of Irish life, it is the greatest threat to the existence of the Irish nation as a coherent, and cohesive whole.

No country has ever accepted, never mind assimilated, the volumes of foreigners now present in this state. We have some 400,000 legal immigrants; but everyone knows that the army of illegals, especially Africans and Chinese, is vast, and probably tops 200,000. In all, Ireland has received at least 600,000 immigrants, most of them within the past five years. It could be many more. No one has the least idea.

In the US, such immigration would translate into an inward population movement of 45 million. In the UK, the figure would be nine million. Needless to say, neither state would be so idiotic or feckless as allow such vast numbers to enter.

Only Ireland would be so idiotic and so morally lethargic as to allow such massive inward population movements.

And of course, we haven't got the resources to cope with the consequences of such an influx. But worse than our lack of resources, is our lack of courage in confronting the issue.

We do not have policies, but inept evasiveness: and perhaps worst of all, we have a posturing gallery of home-grown jackanapes ready to shriek "racism" wherever and whenever they see that things are not going quite the way that immigrants want.

Thus, on any discussion on RTE, especially from its newsroom, immigrants are never held responsible for choosing to come here. Instead, we hear endless complaints that Irish institutions had not prepared themselves properly for their arrival.

On the News at One on Monday, African after African in Balbriggan complained there were no places for their children in the existing local schools.

Not once was the question posed: what was the real reason for the Africans not having places in schools? Answer: they'd only just come here.

Instead, Africans who were just off the boat were allowed to accuse us of racism for not having school places awaiting their children.

There's also the Paddy- factor in all this. It's impossible for any outsider to understand that this state is almost pathologically incapable of planning anything.

This is the land of the Red Cow Roundabout and motorways without service stations, rest-stops or toilets. So how could we be expected seven years ago to have planned school-building projects in north county Dublin for Africans as yet unborn?

If blaming ourselves for our failure to plan for Africa's educational needs were not fatuous enough, some poor spokeswoman from the Catholic archdiocese of Dublin had to defend the Catholic Church against an RTE journalist's accusations of bigotry.

Naturally, in this unprincipled liberal Ireland, for the Catholic Church to insist that Catholic schools have a primary duty to educate Catholics is nowadays both racist and sectarian.

But of course, no one on RTE would ever dream of proposing that Islamic madrasahs should take in Jewish, Catholic or Hindu pupils: in the new Ireland, the only people who are expected to bend their own rules are the Irish Catholic majority.

Accompanying this presumption is the pious and all-prevalent dogma that immigrants will on arrival abandon ancient loyalties, and will promptly don a Hibernian mantle: hence the brainless cliche, wittered endlessly by journalists and politicians alike, "the New Irish".

Sorry. This is conceited gibberish. Why would a Pole surrender something which the Polish people have fought for a thousand years to retain?

Why the presumption that an Asian Muslim who lives in Ireland is in any way Irish?

My mother lived most of her life in England, but never for a second thought of herself as English.

The media should be asking the big question, 'Why are we still admitting hundreds of thousands of immigrants?'

Instead, we are obsessing with the relatively trivial question of: Are the Irish people, who after all have admitted vast armies of strangers to their national home, racist?

This is self-hatred at its most pathetic, and its most self-defeating.

Whether Irish people are "racist" is irrelevant. We have created a society whose apparent cohesiveness is totally dependent on immigration-fuelled economic growth. That growth must one day come to an end.

Then what, in Darndale, Coolock, or even Balbriggan?

[Since Kevin Myers wrote this there are over one million immigrants in Ireland and rising fast.  OK we have to take so many EU migrants , but we don't have to take all the Africans and Asians here. Outside of the massive cost of four billions a year it doesn't look right, especially the African colours or as Tom Clarke,  the 1916 martyr  called them , "those absurd people". Blacks are very ugly people & primitive people.  
And the worst are those Irish men and women mixing with Africans and Asians to go on to produce Mulattoes who are not accepted fully by either race . The worst scum of all are the politicians and parties promoting all this anti-national activity. Turn them from your doors in contempt!]

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The itinerary for Thursday's royal visit amid a citywide lockdown.

By Gabriel Murray, Historian. Copyright May 2017.

Kilkenny City & County has had along association with Royal visits. The following are some of the notable visitors that have visited this beautiful city.

King Edward V11 & Queen Alexandra - Kilkenny Castle.

Princess Alexandra visit to Kilkenny could possibly have been a respite from her own personal difficulties in her life. An increasing degree of deafness, caused by hereditary otosclerosis led to Alexandra's social isolation; she spent more time at home with her children and pets. Her sixth and final pregnancy ended tragically when her infant son died only a day after his birth. 
Despite Alexandra's pleas for privacy, Queen Victoria insisted on announcing a period of court mourning, which led unsympathetic elements of the press to describe the birth as "a wretched abortion" and the funeral arrangements as "sickening mummery", even though the infant was not buried in state with other members of the royal family at Windsor but in strict privacy in the churchyard at Sandringham, where he had lived his brief life.

When the King Edward and Queen Alexandra visited Kilkenny Castle, one of Ireland's earliest en suite bathrooms was installed for them. They visited Kilkenny Agricultural Show at St James Park, Freshford Road.

In order to reach Kilkenny train station they travelled by horse carriage up John St. All the city was covered in banners, bunting and flags. They travelled on to Waterford by rail. There they were entertained by the Lord Mayor. A five-course lunch of local produce in the City Hall was followed by the Waterford Show. The gourmet king was so impressed by the hospitality, that he unexpectedly knighted the Lord Mayor on the railway platform.

Elizabeth Empress of Austria. - The Club House Hotel.

Duchess Elisabeth in Bavaria, (1837 – 1898) was the wife of Emperor Franz Joseph 1 of Austria, In 1880 she visited Kilkenny and took over a wing of Kilkenny castle. She was hosted by the Kilkenny Hunt that met at Club House Hotel. Elizabeth would have had dinner upstairs in the restaurant. She was guided in her fox hunting by the Bunburys. Thomas McClintock Bunbury (1848 – 22 May 1929) was an Anglo -Irish peer, officer and politician.

Lady Waterford also visited Kilkenny to meet the Empress. Lady Waterford's pre marriage name was Lady Blanche Somerset, daughter of Henry Somerset 8th Duke of Beaufort on 21 July 1874. Lady Waterford suffered from a severe illness, which left her an invalid. She had a special carriage designed to carry her around the estate at Curraghmore.

Baroness Pauline Prochazka(1842-1930) also met the Empress, who visited Lyrath House and Desart Court. She was the daughter of Ottokar, Baron Prochazka, Field Marshal in the Austrian Army,and Leopoldine Henrika Gersch, step-daughter of the late Baron Stuart de Deise of Dromana, Waterford. Although born in Prague, she left Bohemia very young and was brought up in Ireland. She was a niece to Sir Charles Wheeler Cuffe and thus related to the illustrator and botanist Charlotte Wheeler Cuffe.

Franz Liszt - The Victoria Hotel - Allied Irish Bank.

Another world famous visitor with royal connections in the Austro - Hungarian Empire was Franz Liszt (1811 – 1886) composer and pianist. He visited Kilkenny in 1840 and stayed at the Royal Victoria Hotel, now the Allied Irish Bank in High Street.

Lady Ellen Odette Bischoffsheim ( 1875-1933)- Countess of Desart.

Lady Desart's grandfather an in- law of Prince Charles via the 4th Earls of Desart was court jeweller for the Emperor of Austria. Her grandfather was so wealthy that he loaned money to the Austrian royal family. Here father Henry Bischoffsheim along with the Goldschmidt family founded three of the largest banks in the world ; BNP Paribas, Societe Generale & Deutche Bank. Via Baron De Hirsch they gave money for the rescue of the Russian Jews from the Czar, approximately one billion dollars in today's valuation.

The Ponsoby';s - Bessborough Hotel- Kildalton College.

The other royal connection with Kilkenny is the Ponsonby estate south of Callan Co Kilkenny; a 27,000 acre estate, where the imposing Bessborough House stands, now the agricultural Kildalton college.

The Earls of Bessborough is a title in the Peerage of Ireland . It was created in 1739 for Brabazon Ponsonby, 2nd Viscount Duncannon. In 1749 he was given the additional title of Baron Ponsonby which entitled him to a seat in the British House of Lords. He was granted the Peerage of Ireland in 1721 and 1723 respectively for Lord Bessborough's father William Ponsonby, who had earlier represented County Kilkenny.

The famed Lady Caroline Lamb lived, lover of Lord Byron, at this house. She was the only daughter of Frederick Ponsonby, 3 Rd Earl of Bessborough and Henrietta Countess of Bessborough, and related to other leading society ladies, being the niece of Georgia Cavendish Duchess of Devonshire and cousin (by marriage) of Annabella, the wife of Lord Byron. Byron in fact visited Bessborough House in pursuit of Lady Caroline.

The last Ponsonby to live at Bessborough House was Arthur Harry Ponsonby (1871 – 1946) a British politician, writer, and social activist. He was the third son of Sir Henry Ponsonby, Private Secretary to Queen Victoria.

The Butlers - Kilkenny Castle.

James Hubert Theobald Butler, 7th Marquess of Ormonde, MBE(19 April 1899 – 1997), was the last Marquess of Kilkenny Castle. During the later years of his life Lord Ormonde maintained an active role as President of the Butler Society. He made regular visits to the city of Kilkenny in Ireland and the castle (which the Butler Family had not inhabited since 1935). It had been transferred to the Town and People of Kilkenny by his predecessor, the 6th Marquess, in 1967. The Butler family regularly have meetings there. One of their notable family members was Hubert Butler (1900 – 1991), an Irish essayist who wrote on a wide range of topics from local history and archaeology to the political and religious affairs of eastern Europe before and during World War 11. He also traveled to nazi Austria on his own initiative and at his own expense and helped save Jewish people from being sent to concentration camps.

Another infamous Butler was Eleanor Charlotte Butler (1739-1829). Butler was considered an over-educated bookworm by her family who resided at the Butler family seat Kilkenny Castle. Her mother tried to make her join a convent because she was a spinster. In fact she was a lesbian who he fell in love with Sarah Ponsonby (1755 – 1831).It was possibly Ireland's first openly public lesbian love stories. Her father had her locked up in rooms in the castle , that it is maintained she still haunts. They escaped to Wales where they lived all their lives and never returned to Ireland.

Bonnetstown House.- Co Kilkenny.- Imperial Family of Russia.

Commander Geoffery Marescaux de Saubrait who lived at Bonnetstown House had roamed the capitals of Europe between the wars, and came home with a White Russian princess, Lubov Glebov. Her ancestor Andrey Glebov was born into a Russian noble family with vast estates hailing from the Chernigov. The princess has close contact with the Imperial House of Russia - with the Romanov dynasty.


Event Hosted by ; Paul Smithwick. OBE

Paul Smithwick was one of four brothers from the Kilkenny brewing family.Brewing is in the blood but after College it was to the law that Paul initially turned to. He was admitted a solicitor in 1970 and by 1972 was a partner in the Dublin firm of T. G. McVeagh & Co. where he stayed for four years before opening a practice of his own, Smithwick & Co. in South Frederick Street, Dublin.

Paul and Peter were the ninth generation of the family associated with the famous Smithwick's brewery and the last as their father sold to Guinness in 1965 when Peter went on to be a judge However it wasn't to be the end of their brewing story for in 2013 when Diageo ceased brewing Smithwick's in Kilkenny the Smithwick and Sullivan families came together to resuscitate the Sullivan's Brewing Company, perhaps the only Irish brewer of ale that was older than Smithwick's itself. Paul is Chairman of this new fast growing concern.

He has served as chairman and director of several other companies in the private, public and state sector including Unicorn Mineral Resources, Ovoca Resources, Grosvenor Waste Management, Coillte, and Balcas Timber Company.

On the philanthropic front, he was chairman of the chamber music board of Camerata Ireland, which runs the Barry Douglas Orchestra. He was involved with the Mayo Peace Park and along with the Duke of Abercorn he set up Bonds of Friendship which aims to bring together members of An Garda Síochána, the PSNI, the Irish Army and the British army regiment the Irish Guards on a social basis, with a view to promoting the peace process. Prince Charles visit to Kilkenny on Thursday can thus be viewed as a continuation and strengthening of the peace process between Ireland and the UK.



Prince Charles & Camilla Parker Bowles. Visit to Kilkenny, 11th May 2017.
Arrival . 10.30 am.

The royal couple will enter the city from the Bennettsbridge road, coming in off the M9 from Kildare. The Castle road and Parade are closed for security reasons, though this is not really called for!

Proposed Itinerary.

Kilkenny Castle: Drinks Reception. The First Tier of Kilkenny's Chosen Few will be presented to Charles and Camilla

Butler House where the Prince will meet a second tier of chosen locals ( held to be not as important as those in the castle). These "lucky" people hand-picked to see the Prince have to be in Butler House at 7.30 am and wait for 3 or 4 hours there before they can see Charles. In all that time they may get a cup of tea. The rest of the population to be kept at bay for the day.

Town Hall & St Marys Museum, then Cartoon Saloon. Here the St. Mary's car park will be closed inconveniencing regular mass goers to the cathedral, again there is no need for it.

Rothe House, Smithwick's Brewery and St Canices Cathedral where the prince will lay a wreath to the soldiers of WW1.

Banquet at Kilkenny Castle. The royal couple will leave the city by road at 3.00 pm bound for Thomastown/Jerpoint.

Are you on the Invitation List?????

Are you a member of Kilkenny's Who's Who or the city's "A" List?

The last Royal Banquet at Kilkenny Castle was 113 years ago, have you been invited to the next on Thursday to partake of roast duckling and quail with county councillors and other local freeloaders?


Mick Jagger & Marianne Faithful were here at the official Kilkenny Castle handover in Oct 1967. They attended as friends of the Hon Desmond Guinness, but they were snubbed by the Butler Society who turned their backs on them in the castle. Ms. Faithfull since lived in Kildare and waterford, Jagger has never returned to Kilkenny after that embarrassment. Desmond Guinness stated that ' he was highly embarrassed' , they being his personal guests . The trio were photographed the following morning inside a closed Kyteler's Inn by the present editor of the Kilkenny Journal Online.

Surely in a modern progressive society such as Kilkenny city's the crony system does not still exist, so all of the people of Kilkenny may yet partake in the royal visit. Hopefully, our Council are men and women of vision and all will be invited to see the royal couple and welcome them proudly to our medieval city. Thursday's visit should not only be for the Chosen Few.


Gabriel Murray. is a member of Kilkenny Archaeological Society. Society of Authors UK, Writers Guild UK. Irish Film and TV Academy. Kilkenny Archaeological Society. Oxford University. Currently writing a book on 'The Countess of Desart'.


[ Paintings left to right; Queen Alexandra, Empress of Austia, Lady Eleanor Charlotte Butler , Lady Caroline Lamb]

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By Gabriel Murray, historian. Copyright May 2017.

One hundred and thirteen years have passed since King Edward and his Queen Consort Alexandra visited Kilkenny in 1904. They had previously visited Ireland in 1868. The Princess had been plagued with deafness most of her life. The medical term was called otospongiosis, an abnormal growth in the middle ear. In Kilkenny the delicate Queen Consort complained of her illness and had to rest in Kilkenny Castle while she was here.

We all know of the Butler family royal connections, but there were other even more direct relatives to Prince Charles living in Kilkenny right up to 1958.



The last living relatives of Prince Charles left Kilkenny in 1958 when Desart Court was demolished. This relative was Lady Kathleen Pilkington, who was married into the Earls of Desart via the 4th Earl, William Cuffe a novelist married to Ellen Bischoffsheim (Lady Desart). They were in fact married into the Earls of Desart of Cuffesgrange in County Kilkenny. 
Lady Joan Mary Cuffe(1877- 1951), whose father was Henry Thynne Lascelles(1824-1892) the 4th Earl of Harewood was married to Hamilton Cuffe(1848 -1934), and his brother Otway was mayor of Kilkenny city in 1908. The 6th Earl of Harewood,(1882-1947), was married to Princess Mary (1897- 1965), daughter of King Edward who visited Kilkenny in 1904.


The only surviving Cuffe family house in Kilkenny, is now the converted Lyrath Hotel. This family were in fact cousins of Prince Charles. The last member of the family to live there was the infamous Captain Tupper also a Cuffe. His father was married to Charlotte Wheeler Cuffe, one of Ireland's most important botanists who died at Lyrath House in 1967 aged one hundred, where she had lived with the Countess Prokaska after her husband died.


Due to events in the 1916 Rising, the 5th Earl Hamilton Cuffe moved to Italy along with his daughter Sybil Cuffe (1879-1943). There they resident at Villa Medici in Fiesole in the hills above Florence. Sybil's daughter married into the Origo's who were Italian aristocrats. She achieved world wide fame with her books on Lord Byron. 
 Today her daughters Donata and Benedetta, manage their 10,000 acre estate south of Siena, in the valley called Val Dorcia. During the second world war Iris Origo rescued and hid starving Jewish children and Italian partisan's at their house called La Foce in this secluded valley. On many occasion they were threatened by the Italian fascists and nazis retreating as the American army pushed north from Sicily for the liberation of Rome.


Because of the Earl of Desart connection Prince Charles is also related to one of the most important Jewish philanthropists in Europe, namely the Lady Ellen Bischoffheim (1875-1933). Her father, along with Baron De Hirsch, was responsible for the rescue of over 2,000,000 Russian Jews and their escape from America.


The surviving relatives of the 4th Earl of Desart are still alive and live in West Cork today. Via the Earl's of Desart, Prince Charles is also related to the Knight of Kerry and the Earls of Fitzgerald of Glin Castle.

Prince Charles Visits, Kilkenny;11 May .2017.
Arrival . 10.30 Am.

Proposed Itinerary.
Kilkenny Castle.
Butler House.
Town Hall
St Marys Museum.
Cartoon Saloon.
Rothe House
Smithwick's Brewery.
St Canices Cathedral.

Departs for Thomastown/Jerpoint circa 3.00 p.m.

Hosted; Paul Smithwick. OBE


There are a considerable amount of lost connections of Prince Charles in Kilkenny, that are documented in Gabriel Murray's forthcoming book on 'The Countess of Desart'.

[Gabriel Murray. Dip, Fine Art., H.Dip, Ed, is currently an external student of Oxford University. He is a member of the Society of Author's, UK and the Writers Guild UK as well the Kilkenny Archaeological Society.]

Contact; Gabriel Murray.

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